A matter of rivalry or persecution?

Each year, for decades, Grandma Young and Grandma Redd had been getting together for lunch around holiday time.

Grandma Young's grandkids attended BYU. Grandma Redd's were at the University of Utah. They liked to banter about that.

"First," Grandma Young was saying, "let me apologize for what our Max said about your grandkids. I know they're great kids."

"Yes," Grandma Redd said, "that was rather unfortunate."

"And uncalled for," Grandma Young said sternly. "He was acting like Max in that storybook -- creating mischief in his little wolf suit. Again, I'm sorry."

"No apology necessary," Grandma Redd said.

For the next few moments, the only sound was clinking dishes.

"Of course," Grandma Young said, "if those fans treated his mother the way he said they did, I can see why he was annoyed."

"Very understandable," Grandma Redd said.

More clinking dishes followed.

"How could they be so cruel to her?" Grandma Young said. "I hear she's a wonderful mother."

Grandma Young was more religious, but Grandma Redd was more philosophical. It made for a pleasant and interesting friendship.

"My guess is the fans saw his mom as an emblem of BYU," Grandma Redd said, "The way her son saw the loutish fans as emblems of the U."

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