The law of chastity is not a crash diet

January 03, 2012
source: By Common Consent

MR says: It's kind of a long video, but it has a great message at the end.

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cloudsnrain said...

09:01 AM
on Jan 04, 2012

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It is a bit long, but like the message of the video, it's worth the wait. The kids in this video were so amazing. In adult time 5 minutes is like, 1 hour so they did really well!

xshills said...

08:56 PM
on Jan 04, 2012

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Cute video.

kristiner said...

11:21 PM
on Jan 04, 2012

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Initial thoughts (before viewing the whole video): “I’m sooo hoping that I don’t have to wait too much longer…=)..And, that better be one darn big & delicious cupcake in the box…lol.” Revised thoughts (after viewing the whole video): “It is darn hard to wait for a cupcake (as can be witnessed from the video)…=)..And, that cupcake better be worth the wait…lmbo.”

kristiner said...

11:25 PM
on Jan 04, 2012

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Oh, and by the way "Mormons" this is about "chastity"...whatever "that" means, not about how cute the kids are or how looong they had to wait for the cupcake...lol

beautifulme said...

11:26 AM
on Jan 05, 2012

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This may be about chastity vs children passing up chocolate chips for a cupcake...but there's really no difference between the two. I child waiting for something greater is just as hard and complexed for them at afor their maturity level as it is for an adult who has a full knowledge of blessings that come to them if they wait for the blessings of a beautiful temple marriage and and the sacred a precious moments you share when you wait until your married...so much more rewarding when you do wait...and the blessings you receive for living in the light. I can imagine the satisfaction those children felt within themselves after learning their reward because it was hard, but they did it. Same will be with each of us when we look the Lord in the eyes knowing...sometimes it was hard doing things his way but Soooo worth it.

beautifulme said...

11:39 AM
on Jan 05, 2012

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...BTW it seems like I saw something lime this before and they followed the kids into adulthood. If remember correctly, they said that those children who were able to wait for the greater reward, were the same o.e who showed better discipline as adults and were happier people...those who didn't wait, grew up being the ones who wanted instant gratification in other areas in their life and were less successful and less happy. Teach your children now that self gratification isn't always instant in every area of their lives...so they can go into adulthood practicing patience, self control and hard work pays off and they will be happier in the longrun.

kristiner said...

12:27 PM
on Jan 05, 2012

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You are correct beautifulme in everything you stated, including that fact that they did follow these children into adulthood. And, that they children that waited for the cupcake where happier more disciplined adults. Soooo, happiness, chastity, patience, etc. are "choices" that each of us make on a daily basis and effect who we become...=).thank you for your insite.

ldsliving said...

05:23 PM
on Jan 05, 2012

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@beautifulme: You are thinking of Elder Uchtdorf's April 2010 general conference talk, Continue in Patience. You can read it here: http://lds.org/general-conference/2010/04/continue-in-patience?lang=eng or watch a super cute video about the experiment here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EjJsPylEOY

necrosus said...

07:54 PM
on Jan 14, 2012

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This should have a disclaimer not to watch if you've already eaten the chocolate chip. Especially if your life is in ruins because of it and you're in a pit of depression. The one kid that put it in his mouth and then when he started to chew realized that he screwed up really stabbed me, but watching the kids at the end opening the boxes was brutal. It's probably a great message for anyone who still has a chance, but not so much for the rest of us. At the very least, there must something else here about the Atonement to link to. Like, "If you did eat the chocolate chip go here:" I really could use that right now.

maccahs said...

11:43 PM
on Jan 17, 2012

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Necrosus: I know how you feel!! Speaking as someone else who also made the mistake of taking that chocolate chip (morally-speaking), a message like this can serve to remind you of how badly you messed up and possibly even make you feel "unfit" or substandard. I think that is the pain and anguish that sin brings us, unfortunately. Happily, the Gospel is a message of good news, most of all for those weighed down with sin. As painful as the realization is that one has "blown it" so to speak, the joy that can come from truly knowing that the Savior has already paid the price for that sin (however bad it may be) can truly overcome all that. You mentioned the Atonement and I think that no Gospel message is ever complete without pointing us toward that Amazing gift! "Though your sins may be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow". Going back to the video, sure maybe you and I disqualified ourselves for our cupcake, but the Lord certainly qualifies for his - and he is willing and desirous to give what he has qualified for, to us if we will only accept that gift. Which, of course means the wonderful gift of repentance. I call that a true gift because it is those that need the Savior most who often develop the strongest and most abiding friendship with Him. What an opportunity to really get to know him and feel how much he loves you!! And, who loves their savior more than a repentant sinner? I speak from personal experience here. 20 years after I mistakenly chose the chocolate chip and agonizingly realized my mistake, I enjoy the full blessings of the Gospel including a temple marriage and children born in the covenant. Nothing the Lord offers has been denied to me and I no longer feel in any way substandard. Sure I still wish I had waited - it would have saved both myself, and my savior, a great deal of heartache, but I have developed such a strong testimony of the Atonement and a love for Jesus Christ!! So, you probably already know all this but I just wanted to remind you that you always still have a chance. You haven't truly "blown it" unless you choose to not take full advantage of the gift of the Atonement in your life. Some great talks on the Atonement: The Miracle of the Atonement by C. Scott Grow (April, 2011 Conference) http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=7054

wg223 said...

09:24 PM
on Feb 06, 2012

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I agree with the fact that people should wait for marriage to be intimate. I did, and I am very happy with my wife. We are married in the temple, and strive to continue living lives of chastity and fidelity. I however am VERY concerned about some of the comments that are made about this video. Moreover I am VERY VERY concerned about the fallacy portrayed here. This video portrays a skewed version of a very important psychological experiment commonly called "The Stanford Marshmallow Experiment", which is a study in deferred gratification. Of the six hundred 4- to 6-year-old participants in the experiment, only one-third were able to suppress the urge to eat the treat that they chose (oreos, marshmallows, etc... whatever was their "sweet-tooth" desired) that was placed before them. It was even observed that many of the children would "cover their eyes with their hands or turn around so that they can't see the tray, others start kicking the desk, or tug on their pigtails, or stroke the marshmallow as if it were a tiny stuffed animal." This is a more accurate portrayal of human nature. The experiment we see in this video has the children were given no choice over what the treat was, it was a chocolate chip. The children in this video were given the box that had the "bigger treat" also. They had visual contact with the bigger box (MUCH BIGGER AND MORE IMPRESSIVE than the TINY TINY chocolate chip). Is this a realistic comparison to chastity? I think it is an injustice to us as individuals to trivialize our urges as "natural creatures" to something as minuscule as a chocolate chip compared to a HUGE BOX that could have anything in it. There are so many people who have given into temptation and broke the "Law of Chastity" and so many of us that tried with all our might to not break the law. If there was a BIG BOX right in front of our eyes every time we were tempted with immorality, and inside that box we knew that our future spouse, family, and happiness were in it, don't you think you'd hold off too? Secondly, the children weren't able to choose what their treat was. This to me alarms me also. In life, we are all tempted by different things. Some people never have trouble with breaking the law of chastity, while other deal with that temptation everyday. Is it fair to compare the two? If one of these children didn't really care for chocolate (and trust me there are kids who don't WORSHIP chocolate), it would not be fair to compare the actions of that child to the actions of a child who LOVES chocolate and craves it. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, I believe in the Law of Chastity. I feel however that broad over-simplifications like this video ends up allowing us to have a society in the church where people feel shunned, evil, and like second class citizens if they are "overly tempted" compared to other people. I plead to members of the church to not use fallacies like this in their teaching. Teach the principles. Teach with stories. Teach with parables like the Savior. He didn't compare the serious and intimate struggles and tragedies of individuals with something as petty and naive as children eating chocolate chips. I encourage you to learn about the real struggle that it is for HUMANS, PEOPLE to follow the commandments. The real science behind the human brain, sexuality, and conscience. We are so much more complex than many of members of the church portray in scenarios like these. Take some time and read the real experiment and see if it isn't a little more accurate to what a real struggle of "deferred gratification" is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_gratification There is a good place to start.

wg223 said...

09:35 PM
on Feb 06, 2012

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CORRECTION TO ABOVE FOR CLARITY I agree with the fact that people should wait for marriage to be intimate. I did, and I am very happy with my wife. We are married in the temple, and strive to continue living lives of chastity and fidelity. I however am VERY concerned about some of the comments that are made about this video. Moreover I am VERY VERY concerned about the fallacy portrayed here. This video portrays a skewed version of a very important psychological experiment commonly called "The Stanford Marshmallow Experiment", which is a study in deferred gratification. Of the six hundred 4- to 6-year-old participants in the experiment, only one-third were able to suppress the urge to eat the treat that they chose (oreos, marshmallows, etc... whatever was their "sweet-tooth" desired) that was placed before them. It was even observed that many of the children would "cover their eyes with their hands or turn around so that they can't see the tray, others start kicking the desk, or tug on their pigtails, or stroke the marshmallow as if it were a tiny stuffed animal." (To me, this sounds like more of a real response to temptation than a person saying, "This is going to be boring") This is a more accurate portrayal of human nature. The children that we see in this video were given no choice over what the treat was, it was a chocolate chip. The children in this video were given the box that had the "bigger treat" also. They had visual contact with the bigger box (MUCH BIGGER AND MORE IMPRESSIVE than the TINY TINY chocolate chip). Is this a realistic comparison to chastity? I think it is an injustice to us as individuals to trivialize our urges as "natural creatures" to something as minuscule as a chocolate chip compared to a HUGE BOX that could have anything in it. There are so many people who have given into temptation and broke the "Law of Chastity" and so many of us that tried with all our might to not break the law. If there was a BIG BOX right in front of our eyes every time we were tempted with immorality, and inside that box we knew that our future spouse, family, and happiness were in it, don't you think you'd hold off too? Secondly, the children weren't able to choose what their treat was. This to me alarms me also. In life, we are all tempted by different things. Some people never have trouble with breaking the law of chastity, while other deal with that temptation everyday. Is it fair to compare the two? If one of these children didn't really care for chocolate (and trust me there are kids who don't WORSHIP chocolate), it would not be fair to compare the actions of that child to the actions of a child who LOVES chocolate and craves it. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, I believe in the Law of Chastity. I feel however that broad over-simplifications like this video ends up allowing us to have a society in the church where people feel shunned, evil, and like second class citizens if they are "overly tempted" compared to other people. I plead to members of the church to not use fallacies like this in their teaching. Teach the principles. Teach with stories. Teach with parables like the Savior. He didn't compare the serious and intimate struggles and tragedies of individuals with something as petty and naive as children eating chocolate chips. I encourage you to learn about the real struggle that it is for HUMANS, PEOPLE to follow the commandments. The real science behind the human brain, sexuality, and conscience. We are so much more complex than many of members of the church portray in scenarios like these. Take some time and read the real experiment and see if it isn't a little more accurate to what a real struggle of "deferred gratification" is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_gratification There is a good place to start.

bubbles2012 said...

03:16 PM
on Feb 16, 2012

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O my goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the cutest video ever!!!!!!!!!! It stands for truth and righteousness and I love it to death!!!!!!!!! We watched this at new beginnings, and I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!! 8}
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