Three days later I met Dawn Marie Nimmer, a young woman who told me about a living prophet that was the president of the church she went to. As I thought about what she had just told me, visions of a TV evangelist entered my mind. My immediate reaction was to reject her claim of a living prophet. I asked, "Have you ever seen this prophet talk to God or God talk to him?" She said, "No." I immediately said, "Well, the day I do will be the day I will join your church. Until then, leave me alone about it."
I went to church with her on several occasions and continued my search. On Feb. 4, 1967, at the age of 18, I joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as I entered the United States Army.