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LDS apostle tells Mormons: Stock up on food, not ammo

September 18, 2012
source: Salt Lake Tribune

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MR says: Elder Oaks said the Church's food storage program is about a year-supply of food and water, not arms and ammo.

LDS apostle Dallin H. Oaks cautioned Mormons against joining or supporting "right-wing groups who mistakenly apply prophecies about the last days to promote efforts to form paramilitary or other organizations."

Such groups could "undermine the authority of public officials," Oaks said Sunday at a regional Mormon conference broadcast from the Marriott Center on Brigham Young University’s Provo campus.

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millerfamilymom said...

11:20 AM
on Sep 22, 2012

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We are not commanded in all things. This has always been a matter between the person and the Lord - what felt right when sincerely asking. For some reason we want someone to give us the list such as they had in Old Testament Levitical laws but the Word of Wisdom has never said anything about caffeine. Assumptions have been made since both coffee and tea contain it. We don't know it all. As with everything else, moderation is the key. If you don't feel right about consuming caffeine - perhaps in any form - don't do it! But some people judge people as harshly as if they were drinking coffee or smoking. Something we shouldn't be doing anyway. If you're addicted and taking in large amounts, that is covered in the Word of Wisdom. If BYU chooses not to serve it, that does not mean it is official doctrine, but when considering health, it's probably a good choice for everyone. Official church doctrine has never stated that caffeine is not to be consumed. Overuse could be considered an addictive drug and it should be taken with consideration of that. Of course there are plenty of ways we can violate the basic laws of health. We would all be wise to consider the wide implications and not assume that if it isn't specifically banned by the brethren over the pulpit it must be OK for us. On the other hand, we cannot write in our own doctrine.

elarue said...

09:20 AM
on Sep 25, 2012

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Wow, you mean a leader in the church actually made a statement that could be interpreted as being in favor of gun control? Yay! It's about time! :-D

justinator1 said...

09:51 AM
on Sep 25, 2012

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I was actually in attendance for this conference. While what Elder Oaks said could be taken as a statement in favor of gun control, in context it sounded more like "Get your food storage in order first." He also made this statement in direct correlation to para-military groups that seek to undermine the local and federal governments.

traveler said...

08:32 AM
on Sep 28, 2012

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Thank you 'justinator1' for setting the proper context of brother Oaks' statements. Anyone who stores food,etc. and has no way to protect those goods,has got their head in the sand. They,and their families for whom the storage is for in the first place,will become victims one day. We are entitled,even commanded,to bear arms and defend our families and rights. That was one of the Founder's primary aims in establishing a Representative Republic (NOT a democracy) through the divinely inspired Constitution. The para military orgs do not represent those aims and brother Oaks correctly puts those in perspective in contrast to the Constitution and the Founder's principles and goals to raise up a free people with personal agency. History,including the BoM,is rife with peoples who,when disarmed,become slaves to the state. The track record for such is 100%. I wonder what 'elarue' will be thinking at the moment when the door comes crashing down and the food storage is taken,the family murdered. Study the era from Mosiah to the first coming of the Christ.(It closely follows the history of our nation from just before the Founding to the present.)Liberty then and now was secured,then maintained and protected through the force of arms.Indeed, our very nation was secured through an armed citizenry (as it was in the BoM)through "the shedding of blood".Bottom line,as long as there is one person on this planet who will deprive his fellow man of his agency through the use of force,the good people of this world must stay alert,vigilant,and armed.

lange said...

01:10 PM
on Aug 20, 2013

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a stock pile of ammo is unecessary to protect our food storage. Our food storage would most likely be used in times of personal disaster like unemployment, than in a regional disaster. Even in a regional disaster ammo would be unnecessary, because we would share with those around us.

lange said...

01:11 PM
on Aug 20, 2013

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If Elder Oakes made these comments, than I gather that this is a real problem among Mormons in Utah. I am glad that I am a Mormon in California. If only Elder Oakes had advised us to avoid all right wing groups, not just the paramilitary ones, we'd all be better off.

elarue said...

06:59 AM
on Aug 29, 2013

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@lange - Thank you for saying this. I have long felt that the biggest public image problem in the church is we are viewed as too politically conservative, and that's a big turnoff for those not of our faith. Despite the best efforts of the brethren to point out the church is officially politically neutral, there's still the unofficial organic shaming of any member of the church who is the least bit liberal, even on economic issues that have no impact on church doctrine whatsoever, which makes us appear out of step with the rest of the world. When we were taught to be "in the world and not of the world," we were meant to be in the real world, not the Fox News fantasy of what they think the world is (or should be) like.

rmt69 said...

07:49 AM
on Sep 18, 2013

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Yes, elarue, it is difficult to be conservative in the environment we live in today. However, is not that the very foundation of the LDS faith? The Church has never in times past..ie before the turn of the 20th century tried to be "popular" with people just to get membership.
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