39: "Behold, My Joy Is Full" (September 28–October 11)
You may be tempted to look at 3 Nephi 17–19 and think, “What’s there to study in just three chapters?” But these chapters are packed with a treasure trove of gospel gems, including when Christ heals the multitude, blesses the children, gives the sacrament to the people, and so much more. And so as we prepare for general conference, let’s dig into this week’s lesson, grab our colored pencils, and study these chapters like we never have before.
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What were Christ's instructions for what the people?
3 Therefore, go ye unto your homes, and aponder upon the things which I have said, and ask of the Father, in my name, that ye may understand, and bprepare your minds for the cmorrow, and I come unto you again (3 Nephi 17:3).
1. "Go ye unto your homes"
2. "Ask of the Father in my name"
4. "Prepare your minds"
5. "I come unto you again"
How did the people respond?
5 And it came to pass that when Jesus had thus spoken, he cast his eyes round about again on the multitude, and beheld they were ain tears, and did look steadfastly upon him as if they would ask him to tarry a little longer with them (3 Nephi 17:5).
Abide: Greek=MENO, μένω meaning to enter into, abide with them (Liddell and Scott's Abridged Greek-English Lexicon, pg.435).
Bowels: Hebrew = RACHAM רֶחֶם meaning womb (Robert Young, Young's Analytical Concordance to the Bible, pg 40).
RAHAM, the verb form, means love, have compassion on, have mercy on.
plural: bowels, compassion, mercies, great mercies, mercy, tender love, tender mercies (Robert Young, Young's Analytical Concordance to the Bible, pg 38).
What did Christ do for the people?
7 Have ye any that are asick among you? Bring them hither. Have ye any that are lame, or blind, or halt, or maimed, or bleprous, or that are withered, or that are deaf, or that are afflicted in any manner? Bring them hither and I will cheal them, for I have compassion upon you; my bowels are filled with mercy.
9 And it came to pass that when he had thus spoken, all the multitude, with one accord, did go forth with their sick and their afflicted, and their lame, and with their ablind, and with their dumb, and with all them that were afflicted in any manner; and he did heal them every one as they were brought forth unto him (3 Nephi 17:9).
Quote: "Jesus had felt that power leave him and he wished to know who approached with such faith as to draw it out of Him. The woman was frightened and trembled. All of us are frightened and do tremble at the moment of healing. But she came and confessed what had been done to her. She accepted what had happened and gave a true version of what went on within her. She alone could witness this miracle, and impart it to/for others. And Jesus told her to go on with her life in a new-found unity or peace. He recommended courage to her.
"Courage is most of what constitutes faith, I think. Faith is belief enlivened by action sustained by courage. And this is what she had exhibited. He remarked that her faith had made her whole, holy, and healthy.(sozo) They are all the same word, and the same process really. All of us must apply for healing from adversity in the same way. We must all reach out and clutch, hold on to, touch, and embrace the covenant edge of Jesus' Atonement, which is full of grace and truth as the angel told Adam" (Terrance C. Smith, "An Anatomy of Troubles").
Heal: Greek=Sozo, meaning keep safe from harm, deliver from an enemy, bring home (Liddell and Scott's Abridged Greek-English Lexicon, pg.660).
After the people were healed, what happened next?
15 And when he had said these words, he himself also aknelt upon the earth; and behold he bprayed unto the Father, and the things which he prayed cannot be written, and the multitude did bear record who heard him.
17 And no atongue can speak, neither can there be written by any man, neither can the hearts of men conceive so great and marvelous things as we both saw and heard Jesus speak; and no one can conceive of the joy which filled our souls at the time we heard him pray for us unto the Father (3 Nephi 17:15–17).
21 And when he had said these words, he awept, and the multitude bare record of it, and he took their little children, one by one, and bblessed them, and prayed unto the Father for them (3 Nephi 20–21).
24 And as they looked to behold they cast their eyes towards heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven as it were in the midst of fire; and they came down and aencircled those little ones about, and they were encircled about with fire; and the angels did minister unto them (3 Nephi 17:24).
Joseph Smith's First Vision:
"A pillar of fire appeared above my head. It presently rested down upon me and filled me with joy unspeakable. . . " (Joseph Smith Journal, November 9-11, 1835, Joseph Smith Papers).
"In the eyes of a child, there is joy, there is laughterThere is hope, there is trust, a chance to shape the futureFor the lessons of life, there is no better teacherThan the look in the eyes of a child."
8 And it came to pass that when he said these words, he commanded his disciples that they should take of the awine of the cup and drink of it, and that they should also give unto the multitude that they might drink of it.
9 And it came to pass that they did so, and did drink of it and were filled; and they gave unto the multitude, and they did drink, and they were filled (3 Nephi 18:8–9).
Ordinance: An authoritative decree or direction. A law set forth by a governmental authority (see Merriam-Webster Dictionary).
14 Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may athrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may bfeel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the cGod of Israel, and the God of the whole dearth, and have been slain for the sins of the world (3 Nephi 11:14).
What two things did the Savior tell the people to do?
1. Watch and pray always
2. Ask for what is right
What happened after Jesus ascended into heaven?
"1 And now it came to pass that when Jesus had ascended into heaven, the multitude did disperse, and every man did take his wife and his children and did return to his own home.
"2 And it was noised abroad among the people immediately, before it was yet dark, that the multitude had seen Jesus, and that he had ministered unto them, and that he would also show himself on the amorrow unto the multitude.
"3 Yea, and even all the night it was noised abroad concerning Jesus; and insomuch did they send forth unto the people that there were many, yea, an exceedingly great number, did labor exceedingly all that night, that they might be on the morrow in the place where Jesus should show himself unto the multitude (3 Nephi 19:1–3).
The number 12: Symbolizes God's power and authority, as well as serving as a perfect governmental foundation. It can also symbolize completeness or the nation of Israel as a whole.
What did the 12 teach the people?
"7 And the disciples did pray unto the Father also in the name of Jesus. And it came to pass that they arose and ministered unto the people.
"8 And when they had ministered those same words which Jesus had spoken—nothing varying from the words which Jesus had spoken—behold, they knelt again and prayed to the Father in the name of Jesus" (3 Nephi 19:7–8).
What did they pray for?
Gift of the Holy Ghost:
"For some reason not fully explained in the scriptures, the Holy Ghost did not operate in the fulness among the Jews during the years of Jesus’ mortal sojourn (John 7:39; 16:7). Statements to the effect that the Holy Ghost did not come until after Jesus was resurrected must of necessity refer to that particular dispensation only, for it is abundantly clear that the Holy Ghost was operative in earlier dispensations. Furthermore, it has reference only to the gift of the Holy Ghost not being present, since the power of the Holy Ghost was operative during the ministries of John the Baptist and Jesus; otherwise no one would have received a testimony of the truths that these men taught (Matt. 16:16–17; see also 1 Cor. 12:3). When a person speaks by the power of the Holy Ghost that same power carries a conviction of the truth unto the heart of the hearer (2 Ne. 33:1). The Holy Ghost knows all things (D&C 35:19) and can lead one to know of future events (2 Pet. 1:21)" (Bible Dictionary, "Holy Ghost, churchofjesuschrist.org).
What happened after they had received the gift of the Holy Ghost?
"14 And behold, they were aencircled about as if it were by fire; and it came down from heaven, and the multitude did witness it, and did bear record; and angels did come down out of heaven and did minister unto them" (3 Nephi 19:13–14).
Quote “Indeed, these who were renewing their baptismal covenants in this newer, higher dispensation were encircled by fire, followed by angels who came down from heaven and ministered to them. In the crowning manifestation of this heavenly sequence, Jesus appeared, standing in the midst of the group. Reinforcing and encouraging his teachings on humility and purity of the day before, and capitalizing on the spiritual atmosphere established among the congregation by the twelve disciples, Jesus commanded the twelve disciples and the multitude to kneel again and to pray” (Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, Christ and the New Covenant, Deseret Book, pg. 279).
Quote: “Nowhere in all of the Book of Mormon is the subject of prayer taught and emphasized in such a concentrated fashion as it is in 3 Nephi 11–20, wherein approximately sixty verses are dedicated to the subject of prayer and some eleven prayers are offered.
"Jesus instructs the people how to pray. Later he also gives them the baptismal and sacramental prayers. In addition to teaching the Nephites to pray, Jesus offers numerous prayers to the Father in their behalf.” (Donald Parry, “Pray Always, Learning to Pray as Jesus Prayed” as quoted by Monte S. Nyman, Charles D. Tate Jr. The Book of Mormon: 3 Nephi 9-30, this is My Gospel).
Prayers in 3 Nephi 19:
The first three prayers are offered by the people in verses 7–9.
7 And the disciples did pray unto the Father also in the name of Jesus. And it came to pass that they arose and ministered unto the people (3 Nephi 19:7).
8 And when they had ministered those same words which Jesus had spoken—nothing varying from the words which Jesus had spoken—behold, they knelt again and prayed to the Father in the name of Jesus.
16 And it came to pass that he spake unto the multitude, and commanded them that they should kneel down again upon the earth, and also that his disciples should kneel down upon the earth.
17 And it came to pass that when they had all knelt down upon the earth, he commanded his disciples that they should pray.
18 And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God (3 Nephi 19:16–18).
The next three prayers are offered by Christ.
21 Father, I pray thee that thou wilt give the Holy Ghost unto all them that shall believe in their words.
22 Father, thou hast given them the Holy Ghost because they believe in ame; and thou seest that they believe in me because thou hearest them, and they pray unto me; and they pray unto me because I am with them.
23 And now Father, I apray unto thee for them, and also for all those who shall believe on their words, that they may believe in me, that I may be in them bas thou, Father, art in me, that we may be cone.
24 And it came to pass that when Jesus had thus prayed unto the Father, he came unto his disciples, and behold, they did still continue, without ceasing, to pray unto him; and they did not amultiply many words, for it was given unto them what they should bpray, and they were filled with desire (3 Nephi 19:20–24).
28 Father, I thank thee that thou hast apurified those whom I have chosen, because of their faith, and I pray for them, and also for them who shall believe on their words, that they may be purified in me, through faith on their words, even as they are purified in me.
29 Father, I pray not for the world, but for those whom thou hast given me aout of the world, because of their faith, that they may be purified in me, that I may be in them as thou, Father, art in me, that we may be one, that I may be glorified in them (3 Nephi 19:28–29).
31 And it came to pass that he went again a little way off and prayed unto the Father;
35 And it came to pass that when Jesus had made an end of praying he came again to the disciples, and said unto them: aSo great bfaith have I never seen among all the Jews; wherefore I could not show unto them so great cmiracles, because of their dunbelief.
36 Verily I say unto you, there are none of them that have seen so great things as ye have seen; neither have they heard so great things as ye have heard (3 Nephi 19:31–36).
7 Places in the New Testament Jesus Prays:
1. Prayer of thanks:
"I thank thee, O Father" (Matthew 11:25-27)
- "I knew that thou hearest me always" (John11: 41-42).
3. Triumphal Entry:
- "Save me from this hour . . . But this is why I came, to glorify you (John 12:27-28).
4. Lord's Prayer:
- Matthew 6:9-15
- Jesus prays for God to be glorified (John 17:1-5).
- Jesus prays for His disciples (John 17:6-19).
- Jesus prays for all believers (John 17:20-26).
6. On the cross:
- “Father forgive them; for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).
- My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matt 27:46, Mark 15:34).
- “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46).
7. Last supper
· Intercessory Prayer (John 17)
3 Things the Savior Prays for:
2. Forgiveness or asking for repentance
3. Not my will but Thine
What two words are found in these verses?
25 And it came to pass that Jesus blessed them as they did pray unto him; and his acountenance did smile upon them, and the light of his bcountenance did cshine upon them, and behold they were as dwhite as the countenance and also the garments of Jesus; and behold the whiteness thereof did exceed all the whiteness, yea, even there could be nothing upon earth so white as the whiteness thereof.
30 And when Jesus had spoken these words he came again unto his disciples; and behold they did pray steadfastly, without ceasing, unto him; and he did smile upon them again; and behold they were awhite, even as Jesus.
Whiteness: A representation of pureness and light.
Quote: "There is room for those who speak different languages, celebrate diverse cultures, and live in a host of locations. There is room for the single, for the married, for large families, and for the childless. There is room for those who once had questions regarding their faith and room for those who still do. There is room for those with differing sexual attractions. In short, there is a place for everyone who loves God and honors His commandments as the inviolable measuring rod for personal behavior, for if love of God is the melody of our shared song, surely our common quest to obey Him is the indispensable harmony in it. With divine imperatives of love and faith, repentance and compassion, honesty and forgiveness, there is room in this choir for all who wish to be there. 'Come as you are,' a loving Father says to each of us, but He adds, “Don’t plan to stay as you are.'
"We smile and remember that God is determined to make of us more than we thought we could be" (Elder Jeffrey R. Holland, "Songs Sung and Unsung," April 2017 general conference).
0:00:00 Tammy: You guys, I love to camp. I love camping so much. I love it so much that when I was going to Ricks College or BYU-I, they had a summer semester called Discovery and you had to live for a month on the Salmon River in Idaho, and it was so crazy. None of my roommates even thought that I could actually do it. We rafted down to the bottom of the Salmon and we spent a month hiking all the way back up to the top, and I loved every minute of it. And I can remember one specific hike that we took, and it was to the top of what's called China Gulch, and one of our professors who was teaching us during this month-long discovery, he said to us, "Okay, you guys, just so you know, you need to go to bed early tonight because tomorrow's hike is gonna be brutal. It's three miles in length," and we were all like, "Pfff! Three miles." And he said, "But it's 24 miles in exhaustion."
0:00:48 Tammy: So we wake up in that morning and I get everything ready, my backpack, my water, my snacks, my candy, more snacks, more candy, the essentials, and we started on the hike. And I would say, probably 15 minutes into it, I thought I was gonna die. I really was so dramatic that I was like, "Save yourselves, leave me here. You guys go on." And halfway there, I really was done and I had sat on a rock and the thought came, "Just drop some stuff. Get rid of it." So I did. I left my backpack and then I started leaving more and more, and I made it to the top of the hike. I was so pleased, so proud of myself that I did something that difficult.
0:01:23 Tammy: Now, there are so many analogies to this story in my life that I have you used many times but when I was thinking about this week's episode and the three chapters that we're gonna study, I thought about this hike because I thought, "You know what? 3 Nephi chapter 17, 18 and 19 are exactly what we need in the world right now." And then I thought, "You know what? I kind of feel like these three chapters are exactly what we need to ascend to the summit of the October 2020 general conference." This is what we need to prepare to hear what the prophets and apostles have to say to us this coming weekend, and it might be just three-mile general conference but 24 miles in exertion and it might exhaust us. And there may be some things that we need to drop or do specifically to get ready and I feel like that's what this scripture block does for us, it gets us ready for general conference. And I feel like 3 Nephi chapter 17, 18 and 19 was a general conference, like all the saints who were alive came back together to hear the words of the apostles, the prophet and Jesus Christ, and that is what we get to study today.
0:02:30 Tammy: Welcome to the "Sunday on Monday" study group. It's a Deseret Bookshelf PLUS+ original brought to you by "LDS Living", where we take a "Come, Follow Me" lesson for the week and we really dig into the scriptures together. Now, I'm your host and I'm Tammy Uzelac Hall. Now, if you're new to this study group, I wanna make sure that you know how to use this. And we go over this every week, but for anyone who's new, it's an hour long, sometimes a little bit more, and you can listen to it all at once and study your scriptures in an hour. But the thing that I like the most about it is that there are six segments and each segment lasts about 10 to 12 minutes, so you can study your scriptures for 10 minutes a day and call it good, which is totally my style. But either way, we're just really excited to have you here and to join us for this podcast.
0:03:06 Tammy: And I have to do a little shout out to our friend, Sheridan, who's listening in Dubai. She asked a really cool question to me. And you can ask questions throughout the week, and she did. She reached out to me on Instagram and asked a beautiful question about prayer and I told her that this is going to be her episode. So this is an answer to your question and thank you for asking it.
0:03:25 Tammy: Now, another really cool thing about the podcast, my favorite thing, is that each week, we're joined by two of my friends. Now, this episode is going to be a little bit different because it's what we call the general conference episode. So this is going to be a lot like our last conference episode and I'm not gonna teach every segment. I've invited my friends, Mandy Green and Roberta North, to each teach a chapter or two. And so we're gonna have a great time, and I'm gonna love this because I get to sit back and learn from them. So Mandy's here today. Hi, Mandy.
0:03:53 Mandy: Hello.
0:03:56 Tammy: And then we got to... We invited... Mandy and I thought it would be so fun to invite our friend, Roberta, and I've known Roberta forever, and Roberta just recently started taking Hebrew. Well, I guess she has been taking it for a year now.
0:04:04 Mandy: She's been taking it for a while.
0:04:05 Roberta: A couple of years.
0:04:06 Mandy: Three years?
0:04:07 Roberta: Yeah, three years.
0:04:08 Tammy: I don't know where time goes. So Roberta has been taking Hebrew from Mandy, so that's how all three of us know each other. So Hi, Roberta.
0:04:14 Roberta: Hey, I'm so excited to be here.
0:04:16 Tammy: And Roberta and Mandy, they take tours to Jerusalem, and the Holy Land, so...
0:04:22 Mandy: I don't know what to say about that.
0:04:27 Roberta: I was gonna say, "Come join us, anytime."
0:04:28 Mandy: I'm like, "I'm really sorry that Roberta and I don't get to travel together because that might epically explode the universe if we were actually in Jerusalem at the same time, but Roberta's like a red-headed goddess.
0:04:39 Tammy: You both are red heads.
0:04:41 Tammy: I've got gingers on the show today. [laughter]
0:04:43 Roberta: Yes, you do.
0:04:45 Mandy: We should call it the special ginger episode.
0:04:47 Tammy: Gingers in America.
0:04:50 Mandy: Yeah.
0:04:51 Tammy: Well, and for those of you who are listening who did not have a chance to hear Mandy's episode during April general conference, I'm gonna highly recommend that because when she joined me before, we talked about the Five Marys and we called it "Have a Very Mary Easter," 'cause it was our Easter episode, but you're gonna wanna go back and listen to that. It will change your life. But how cool now because here you are with me again and we're gonna talk about the Savior again? And so this is gonna be such a fun episode today. I'm super excited.
0:05:17 Tammy: If you wanna see pictures of my friends and read more information about them and their bios, you can find those on our website. Go to ldsliving.com/sundayonmonday and find the information about them in our show notes. So friends, grab your scriptures and let's dig in. So I'm just gonna turn the time over to Mandy. Here we go, Mandy. Teach us from 3 Nephi chapter 17.
0:05:37 Mandy: Alright. Alright, 3 Nephi 17. You'll need your Crayola rainbow, at least 10 pack, for this one. There's just so much here, so I'm going to hit a few highlights. Please know this isn't all of it, we're just going to look at it. So Roberta, would you mind reading verse 1 and 2 of chapter 17 for me?
0:05:58 Roberta: "Behold, now it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words, he looked around about again on the multitude and he said unto them, Behold, my time is at hand. I perceive that ye are weak, that ye cannot understand all my words which I am commanded of the Father to speak unto you at this time."
0:06:19 Mandy: Okay. So I love this aspect of human weakness, of mortal weakness, that... The things of having are way beyond us and that it takes some digestion. I'd rather be served up a big spiritual steak than prison baby food. What am I saying? Prison food... I mean like Gerber baby food.
0:06:39 Mandy: Right, have you ever been in a lesson and you were being served up Gerber baby food? But I love that the Savior is a master teacher, who can understand the students and is giving them direction, and saying, "You don't always get it all but that's the beauty of digesting great spiritual truth." So don't feel like you have to get all of this. You could take it in moments, alright? Tammy, would you read verse 3? These are instructions about how you grow in perception.
0:07:09 Tammy: Oh, I love these instructions. "Therefore, go ye unto your homes and ponder upon the things which I have said and ask of the Father in my name that ye may understand and prepare your minds for the morrow, and I come unto you again."
0:07:23 Mandy: Alright, so the first instruction is to "go ye into your homes." Have you ever had a really amazing spiritual experience and you're just exhausted, you're just done? "Ask the Father in my name that ye may understand." That is the prayer in the name of Jesus Christ that you will begin to understand the things that you're ready for, you'll be open to and that you will also, through time, become more prepared to understand more. Four, "Prepare your minds for the morrow." Come back restored, refresh, ready to go. And five, "I come unto you again." I love that last part so much because Christ is the ultimate tutor. He will have us come back again and again and teach us line upon line. He's not in this crazy rush, He's not too busy, it's just this is the process and keep coming back, keep coming back. Alright, verse five. Tammy, would you read that?
0:08:19 Tammy: "And it came to pass that when Jesus had thus spoken, He cast His eyes around about again on the multitude, and beheld, they were in tears and did look steadfastly upon Him as if they would ask Him to tarry a little longer with them."
0:08:32 Mandy: I think this is such a critical aspect of having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. We have to ask Him to abide with us. Abide is such a beautiful word in Greek. It means to abide with but it can also be at one with, as in like He's part of you and you're part of Him.
0:08:52 Mandy: Alright, verse six. I will read. "And He said unto them, "Behold, my bowels are filled with compassion towards you." As a child, this always disturbed me 'cause I didn't know what bowels was. But then I did and it was maybe even less... Made more sense.
0:09:06 Tammy: Right. Yes.
0:09:07 Mandy: But I'm going to go to the Hebrew meaning here because in Hebrew, this would probably... And this is just my take, but the Hebrew here will probably be the word rechem which is the womb, and it's also this term for the innermost parts. Your bowels are like my very, very innermost part but the womb is considered to be the seed of compassion and mercy, and so very feminine symbol, which is beautiful, because I think we sometimes tend to put Jesus or the Elohim in this box and we're like, "This is this, that is that," but the Savior uses both feminine and masculine imagery to teach us. So it's this beautiful... Fierce, beautiful maternal love that's undying, right? And He said, "My bowels are filled or my rechem is just filled with love for you." Alright, Roberta, would you read verse 7 and 8?
0:10:12 Roberta: "Have ye any that are sick among you? Bring them hither. Have ye any that are lame or blind, or halt, or maimed, or leprous, or that are withered, or that are deaf, or that are afflicted in any manner? Bring them hither and I will heal them, for I have compassion upon you; my bowels are filled with mercy."
0:10:34 Mandy: Awesome. Thank you. Alright, Tammy, bring us home with verse 9.
0:10:39 Tammy: "And it came to pass that when he had thus spoken, all the multitude, with one accord, did go forth with their sick and their afflicted, and their lame, and with their blind, and with their dumb, and with all them that were afflicted in any manner; and he did heal them every one as they were brought forth unto Him".
0:10:57 Mandy: Alright, this is so fantastic.
0:11:00 Tammy: So fantastic.
0:11:01 Roberta: Absolutely.
0:11:01 Mandy: Afflicted in any manner, that right there... I think we're all affected in some manner. I think I'd be hanging toward the back. I'm not blind, maybe possibly dumb, but afflicted in any manner. We all have affliction, and I want to put it in the show notes, but there's this beautiful talk by Terence C. Smith called "An Anatomy of Troubles," and I'm going to read an excerpt from it. But he talks about how being a young married man and he throws all the laundry in at once, and what happens when you throw all the laundry in, like all the colors.
0:11:37 Tammy: Yeah.
0:11:39 Mandy: Right, Now what happened... His new wife was not very pleased with the outcome and she taught him to sort laundry, and he said, "We need to learn to sort our own spiritual laundry." And he said, "The prescription for sin is radically different than the prescription for adversity, and that adversity is actually the much, much larger load." And he quotes Isaiah, that "The first thing that the Lord deals with is our adversity" and the very last things in that verse about being bruised for our transgressions, that's the very end part, is the sin. So the greater part of being a mortal in this crazy world... I'm not even gonna talk about 2020 but let's throw 2020 in, that's like the mega ultra laundry load that I put 900 things in. My husband hates when I do laundry 'cause I'm always like, "I'm gonna put it all in. I'm not gonna leave the three shirts out." So I'm pulling all the 2020 laundry in and I'm gonna make that washing machine shake to where it doesn't spin.
0:12:42 Tammy: Sure.
0:12:43 Mandy: But that's what we're talking. And he said, "Isn't it interesting that the prescription for transgression really is that with by the Aaronic priesthood but the prescription for adversity is the Melchizedek priesthood." These higher, holier ordinances, powers, blessings, endowments, all come from the Melchizedek priesthood, and I think that's such a beautiful aspect of what the Lord does. This is just affliction, this is adversity. You didn't choose this...
0:13:19 Tammy: Yeah.
0:13:20 Mandy: You didn't take this on by yourself, this was something that came up as a result of agency or other people's agency or being part of mortality, and I love that the Lord says, "If you are afflicted in any manner."
0:13:35 Tammy: As you were talking, that word, I have it marked, I circled it, highlighted it, everything, the word, "any," in verse 7, and then in verse 9. 'Cause I'm imagining me being there and how you said, "You're probably standing in the back of the group," I'm right next to you. I guarantee I'm in the back of the group with you.
0:13:49 Roberta: I'm with ya.
0:13:51 Tammy: And I can totally just... I'm picturing me and He says that word, "any," and I go, "Uh, wait," and I look around at everyone and I'm like, "Did I hear that wrong?" and then I just... I look at you, Mandy, and I kind of lean in and whisper, "Did He just say, any? Did I hear that right?"
0:14:05 Mandy: And you like qualify.
0:14:07 Tammy: Yeah. [chuckle] I'm all, really, does He really mean any? Because if he means any, I gotta get up there, I gotta get in on this. This is amazing. And so I loved what you've just talked about, how adversity and afflicted in any manner, 'cause you're right, I would go through the list, well, I'm not blind, I'm not lame, I don't have leprosy, and especially when you talked about things that happen to us by no fault of our own. And I can witness to you that I have been afflicted due to people's choices. I'd love to be healed of that right now. And looking to the Savior, I'm just thinking all of this out loud is I can be. And in the next segment, we're gonna talk a little bit more about that.
0:14:53 Tammy: So we're gonna start out this segment with just asking a question. Is there anyone in your life that you would like to see healed by Christ?
0:15:01 Roberta: Absolutely. I was thinking about my... I have two siblings who are schizophrenic. One, who is just not even able to function in life. I would be pushing him forward, I would be with my bat, knocking everybody down to get them up there. And I think that's how we all feel with others in our lives. We would probably stand back and say, "Okay," but those that we love, aren't those the ones, who you want first, to be healed first before we are. I see them suffer everyday. So I would want them to be first and foremost.
0:15:40 Mandy: Well, and I love this one-by-one, I mean, that should be the key phrase for all of us, because guess what, He is accessible anytime, anywhere, any place, to any heart that reaches out. Now, I wanna take it up one level really quickly, let's get out of the mortal world, and let's take it to a heavenly perspective. Am I sick of this world or as a result of being in this world? Am I afflicted? Am I lame, spiritually lame? Oh, you better believe it. I feel like my wings are clipped, right? Am I blind? Yes, I need my spiritual eyes opened. I can't speak with the tongue of angels, and I'm afflicted by being in the mortal world. So much, much more than a reprieve from physical healing. This is an invitation to level up. The last thing I wanna talk about is this being made whole or healed. In Greek, the word is sozo, and it doesn't just mean, I'm healed. Let's take the woman with the issue of blood as an example, she was made whole from all of it. All of the mental, emotional anguish that she dealt with, all of the dark nights, all of the prayers.
0:16:58 Mandy: I mean, it's not just like, you're physically okay, He's gonna heal us in every possible way and make you whole. The other thing that word means is to deliver you or make you safe, or bring you home. And that's the eternal perspective, that you are eventually made completely whole that the residual effects of that disappear. And I have a son, and he's been waiting six months to go on admission, and it's just been a horrible, well, not horrible, I trust there's tutoring in that process, but he always has been telling me, "Mom, wear your scars proudly." And if you think it, how the Savior presented Himself to the Nephites here, it's beautiful that He has them recognize Him by his scars. Each week, we remember Him as His most weak as His most vulnerable. And I think if we can embrace our own weakness and love our scars and take what they've taught us and understand, He makes that a whole piece of us, we don't need to feel all the trauma associated with it, but the power of His healing and that we should wear those scars and be proud of them, so...
0:18:19 Tammy: I just like, big, deep sigh. [chuckle]
0:18:22 Roberta: Yeah.
0:18:23 Tammy: It's beautiful, Mandy.
0:18:25 Roberta: That is so beautiful.
0:18:26 Tammy: Wow. Thank you.
0:18:28 Tammy: So Mandy, Christ heals the multitude, and I like how you said, "They were made completely whole," not only were they healed physically, but they were healed spiritually, emotionally, just in every way possible, they were healed. Now, tell us what happened next?
0:18:44 Mandy: They bathed His feet with their tears, in verse 11, He commands that their little children be brought forth, so they're brought to the inner circle, so Christ is in the midst, that means in the middle of something, right?
0:18:57 Tammy: Mm-hmm.
0:18:57 Mandy: The children encircle them, and then the multitude gives way, and He commands them to kneel on the ground, and he kneels down. And I want to just read verse 15 through 17. "And when He had said these words, He Himself also knelt upon the Earth, and behold He prayed unto the Father and the things which He prayed cannot be written. And the multitude did bear record who heard Him. And after this manner, they do bear record that I have never seen, neither hath the ear heard, before so great and marvelous things as we saw and heard Jesus speak unto the Father, and no tongue can speak, neither can there be written by any man, neither can the hearts of men conceive, so great and marvelous things as we both saw and heard Jesus speak.
0:19:48 Mandy: No one can conceive of the joy which filled our souls at this time, we heard him pray for us unto the Father." This is clearly something beyond this world and isn't it beautiful that the Savior heals them before he actually brings them into this higher light. And that's usually how the gospel... The ordinances of the gospel work. Did you recognize that you're baptized before you're... You're totally cleaned out so that the Holy Ghost will have a place in you. This is another level of that, that he's cleaned them, he's emptied their souls, and now they're filled to the brim, and he's able to speak in this way. Jesus arises, he tells them to rise because they really can't, and he said in verse 20, "And now behold, my joy is full." Verse 21, "And when he had said these words, he wept. And the multitude bear record of it, and he took their little children one by one, and blessed them and prayed unto the Father for them, and when he had done these things, He wept again, and he spake unto the multitude and said unto them, 'behold your little ones.'"
0:20:58 Mandy: Now, this behold is a command word, it's like, "Don't miss this, pay attention." Verse 24, "And as they looked to behold, they cast their eyes towards Heaven, and they saw the heavens open, and they saw angels descending out of heaven as it were in the midst of fire, and they came down and encircled these little ones about, and they were encircled about with fire, and the angels did minister unto them."
0:21:28 Tammy: Wow.
0:21:28 Mandy: There's this pillar of fire. Now. Let's go back to the early history of the church when Joseph Smith saw a pillar of light, exactly over my head above the brightness of the sun, which gradually, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. In an earlier account however he said, "A pillar of fire appeared above my head, it presently rested down upon me." This is an opening of the heavens, when you have the heavens being opened, fire comes down and it encircles these beautiful little children. And I wanna talk about the sacredness of little children just for a second. A couple of years ago, we had our ward split, and we were put in a new ward, and they called me to be the nursery leader. And I have to admit, I was kinda like...
0:22:25 Tammy: Best calling ever. Been my favorite calling.
0:22:27 Mandy: It is actually.
0:22:27 Tammy: Yes it is my favorite calling.
0:22:27 Mandy: It is actually.
0:22:27 Tammy: I want it all the time.
0:22:29 Mandy: But in my ignorance and hubris, I was like, "Why are you calling me to nursery?" I can teach, I know all these languages. And it was like, "No, nursery." Well, let me tell you something. If the Savior's in any room in our churches, he's in the nursery room. And it was a sacred thing to be there every week and to understand Christ's love for the children and the purity of those children. There was a particular little girl her name's Ruby, she's also a ginger, this is the episode of ginger. This beautiful little red-headed Down syndrome girl with these red glasses, and she loves my husband, Brent, she could not sit close enough to him, she would just keep sitting back, and I'm like, "You're glued to his... Like your back is glued to him." And she would just grab his face and look at him, and they have a very special relationship. And I remember asking him about it and he said, "I don't know how to explain it Mandy, but when I look into her eyes, I see Heaven."
0:23:40 Tammy: Wow.
0:23:41 Mandy: From then on, I changed my tune nursery is now Jesus and pancakes. Those kids can say Jesus, and they can say pancakes. Now it might sound really flippant to start out with, but we always taught about Jesus, and those kids always knew who Jesus was. The second I held up the picture, I didn't even need to tell them, they knew. Little Ruby would actually walk up to the big foyer picture and press her cheek to it. And pancakes, we made these little baby-sized pancakes every week, and we fed those children. And I think that's what the Savior really does. We all are kind of... We are nursery kids, but Jesus always teaches and He always feeds people what they need. And ever since then, I will always look in the eyes of a child at Target or at a Costco, and I'm telling you they have things to tell you. They will recognize you, you will recognize the beauty and the divinity in them. And I think there's a holiness to them. I can't believe I'm gonna quote this. It's actually wildly embarrassing, but I blame my mission companion, Holly Joestar.
0:24:56 Mandy: All I can think about is this Air Supply song that she had on some mixtape, and I loathe the song, but it's been playing in my head all week. So, whoever is my Air Supply lover out there, this is for you, because this is really like against by wiring.
0:25:12 Tammy: This is a first, we've never quoted Air Supply before.
0:25:15 Mandy: I'm gonna kill her, they just released a new album and I'm quoting Air Supply. Alright, "In the eyes of a child, there is joy, there is laughter, there is hope, there is trust. A chance to shape the future for the lessons of life there is no better teacher than the look in the eyes of a child." For all you young moms out there, I'm still exhausted from being a young mom, but I invite you to look with new eyes, to invite the Savior to heal you of that enough that maybe once a day you can look into the eyes of that child. And to the rest of us that we pay attention. I mean the commandment is to become as a little child.
0:25:56 Mandy: Let's read Helaman 6:36.
0:26:00 Mandy: Tammy, do you have that? Would you read it?
0:26:02 Tammy: Yeah. And thus we see that the Lord began to pour out his Spirit upon the Lamanites, because of their easiness and willingness to believe in his words.
0:26:11 Mandy: I mean that... That's childlike, easiness and willingness to believe in his words and to accept miracles, to invite the fire, and to invite the spirit, to invite healing, to invite all of these beautiful things that a child would ask for. Children just ask for what they need and they take it and they accept it, and I just wanna end by saying there's a lot of crazy things going on with children. I know that sex trafficking has really gotten ahold of my heart, and I felt a great deal of despair and darkness as a result of that, and I felt prompted that we need to pray as if everything depended on our prayers, that evil would be exposed and that goodness would triumph and that these children would be liberated from such an atrocity, so... And I pray that we will treasure these children because they are worthy of heaven's highest blessings. Any comments or...
0:27:11 Tammy: Well, just real quick, Mandy. I was thinking, one of the things that stood out to me in this is that he heals the adults first, and then he blesses the children, and when he says behold your little ones, I just thought how powerful that he heals the adults of what they need to be healed of, so they can behold the little ones. And it just kind of I made me think of when I was a young mom and had little ones, there were afflictions. There definitely are things that play into the way we parent and mother and father, and to think that the Savior can heal our hearts of that, to make us the kind of parents that our kids need today, that is possible. I am a witness of that. I can't parent the same way my parents did. I can take what they taught me, definitely, but it takes a new caliber of parenting today, and I need him to heal me of any affliction that I will be able to then behold my little ones and they're still little even though they're 13 and 24. They're still my little ones. I feel so filled right now, I just love this. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. That was one chapter. So Roberta, you're up next, I cannot wait. In the next segment, we are gonna study 3 Nephi chapter 18 and Roberta is gonna lead that discussion.
0:28:32 Tammy: Roberta, this is your chapter and I know it. When I was thinking of these three chapters just as clear as day, Heavenly Father was like, "Mandy is 17, Roberta is 18, you are 19." and I'm like, "Really? But what if I do... " And the spirit was like, "Nope." and you're gonna share this today, Roberta, but in light of your life and things that have happened chapter 18 is your chapter.
0:28:51 Roberta: It really is. Through this whole pandemic where we haven't been able to go to church every week and partake of this I wonder how many of you out there are feeling as lost as I do sometimes about the sacrament.
The sacrament is the most important thing that we do when we go to church on Sunday. And he comes to the people of Nephi here, during or right after Passover. What is Passover? First of all, it commemorates the liberation of the children of Israel from slavery. That's the first thing that it does. The second thing is that it is a reminder of the passing over of the destroying Angel. Do we need this more now than ever before...
0:29:47 Tammy: Absolutely...
0:29:47 Roberta: The passing over of the destroying angel? And that's what the sacrament is all about. So Tamara, could you read 3 Nephi chapter 18 verses four through five for me?
0:30:05 Tammy: And when they had eaten and were filled, he commanded that they should give unto the multitude. And when the multitude had eaten and were filled, he said unto the disciples: Behold there shall one be ordained among you, and to him will I give power that he shall break bread and bless it and give unto the people of my church, unto all those who shall believe and be baptized in my name.
0:30:26 Roberta: So what is he doing here?
0:30:29 Tammy: It's interesting 'cause he's giving the sacrament, and the word filled is so intriguing to me 'cause there's 2500 people. Gosh, you'd think a missionary farewell sacrament takes forever. Can you even imagine this? And then to be filled, not a nibble. That's interesting.
0:30:46 Roberta: And I'm gonna talk about that word in just a minute, too. Now will, Mandy, can you read 3 Nephi chapter 18 verse eight and nine for me?
0:30:56 Mandy: And it came to pass that when he said these words he commanded his disciples that they should take of the wine of the cup, and drink of it and that they should also give unto the multitude, that they might drink of it. And it came to pass that they did so, and did drink of it, and were filled; and they gave unto the multitude, and they did drink, and they were filled.
0:31:17 Roberta: What is the sacrament to us as he's introducing this? It is an ordinance for us, is it not?
0:31:25 Mandy: Yes.
0:31:25 Roberta: And what is an ordinance? In the dictionary it's interesting 'cause the dictionary says an ordinance is an authoritative decree or direction, a law set forth. So he is introducing the law of the sacrament during and right after Passover. The other thing is they are filled. What are they filled with?
0:31:47 Tammy: I'm thinking like were they filled with so much bread that they weren't hungry anymore but I think there's [chuckle] I think it goes beyond that kind of like I'm so full. I think they were...
0:31:56 Mandy: It might have been pancakes, too.
0:31:58 Tammy: Yeah, true.
0:31:58 Mandy: I'm sorry, that was...
0:32:00 Roberta: Yeah, they might have been pancakes.
0:32:02 Roberta: It's interesting because, like you said, Tamara, there's 2500 people sitting there that he is introducing this ordinance, too. They had a lot of time to sit there and be filled with the Spirit, do they not?
0:32:17 Tammy: Yeah.
0:32:17 Roberta: Can you imagine?
0:32:18 Mandy: Oh yes, I'd like that.
0:32:19 Roberta: What are they thinking of? And what are they filling themselves with? Remember in 3 Nephi chapter 11 verse 14. Tamara do you want to read that?
0:32:31 Tammy: Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet. That ye may know that I am the God of Israel and the God of the whole Earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.
0:32:47 Roberta: Do you think they're thinking about that during the sacrament? They had just experienced this the day before, a couple of days before they had gone and they had actually touched his hands. They had touched his feet.
0:33:02 Tammy: Well, what I love about this, Roberta, is I'm thinking about me as a new mom. I would say there were probably a good six years where I did not feel filled with the sacrament. And there was a moment where I'm like, "I really need to just take it some time," and so I taught my kids... I started praying during the sacrament. I would put my head down and pray, and now they know that that's what I do during the sacrament and they have stopped bothering me. They just let me do a little prayer. And... 'Cause they'll still poke me, "Mom, mom, mom." And then they stopped doing that. And so I took that time during the sacrament to just pray so I could be filled. It wasn't perfect every Sunday but that significant prayer made a difference in my week and probably in the way I took the sacrament. And prayer was such an important part of that.
0:33:44 Roberta: Absolutely. And that leads us into prayer, which is the other part of this chapter. Mandy, will you read 3 Nephi, chapter 18, verse 15 and 20 for me?
0:33:55 Mandy: Verily, verily, I say unto you, ye must watch and pray always, lest ye be tempted by the devil and ye be led away captive by him. And whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, which is right. Believing that ye shall receive. Behold, it shall be given unto you.
0:34:13 Roberta: All right. Watch and pray always. That's the first thing he tells them. The second is that we should ask what is forever right. What it doesn't say in the scriptures is that, that prayer is going to be answered today. It does not say it's gonna be answered tomorrow, but it has been answered. One of the things that I think of is I'm single, never been married, and it's one of those things that I have prayed hard to get a husband or have a husband. Has that prayer been answered? Absolutely. I go to my patriarchal blessing, and it says, I will be. My answer will be in the next life. It is absolutely positive. Yes, you will be married. Yes, you will have children but not at this time. I have children. I have 16 beautiful nieces and nephews. That prayer has been answered. I can just guarantee if you pray and ask, read your scriptures, the answers will be there. It doesn't say it will be today, but they will be done. He promises us that, and what a great thing for us to have is that knowledge that prayers are answered.
0:35:38 Tammy: Roberta, I have a question. In 3 Nephi, chapter 18, verse 21, Roberta, I wanna know how this verse has played a role in your life this specific week? "Pray in your families unto the Father, always in my name that your wives and your children may be blessed."
0:35:54 Roberta: So I have a beautiful little 6-year-old nephew who had a terrible injury. He was jumping on a trampoline, came off, had a screw go right through the back of his head into the main artery of his brain. He had to have parts of both the front and the back part of his brain taken out. Twice we were told that he was dead. This little boy last night, opened his eyes, reacted to his mother's voice and is doing amazingly well. And why we have this little miracle, with the prayers that we have been saying, not just myself but all of my friends around the world, we have been praying so hard for this. And we were prepared either way. We were ready for the answer, either way. And I think that's what we have to be. We have to be ready to take that answer and run with it. Leave the ball in Christ's court, in our Heavenly Father's court, they're in charge of it. Pray for what you want and if it is just right, that's the underlying part of it, if it be right, it will be given unto you. We have to remember that.
0:37:18 Mandy: You live that part so beautifully, Roberta.
0:37:22 Tammy: Yes. You do.
0:37:23 Roberta: Thank you.
0:37:24 Tammy: Thank you Roberta. I appreciate that. And it's been such a tender week for you. And it's still unknown, it's amazing, 'cause we're still praying for this little boy. So, thank you for sharing that. I think what's beautiful about this is this idea of prayer. And so in the next segment, I'm gonna talk to us about 3 Nephi chapter 19, and just how incredible this example of prayer is. In 3 Nephi, chapter 18, in verse 24, when Jesus says, "Therefore, hold up your light that it may shine into the world," I think that that is prayer, that example of praying. "Behold I am the light which ye shall hold up. That which ye have seen me do, behold ye see that I have prayed unto the Father, and ye have all witnessed." And we're gonna talk more about his example of prayer in the next segment.
0:38:22 Tammy: Alright let's just jump right into 3 Nephi, chapter 19 because the Savior has left and everybody is just in this kerfuffle like verse 1, it says, "It came to pass that when Jesus ascended into heaven, the multitude did disperse every man did take his wife, his children and return to their home." And like you had taught earlier Mandy, go home, ponder, think about the things that you've just been taught. But then look at verse 2, "It was noised abroad among the people immediately before it was yet dark that the multitude had seen Jesus, and that he had ministered unto them, and that he would also show himself on the morrow unto the multitude. Yea, and even all night, it was noised abroad concerning Jesus, and in so much did they send forth unto the people that there were many, yea, and exceedingly great number did labor exceedingly all that night that they might be on the morrow in the place where Jesus would show himself unto the multitude."
0:39:12 Tammy: And I'm just imagining, I don't know, I probably wouldn't have been the 2500. [chuckle] 'Cause this happens to me all the time, people are gonna come and go, "Man, you're not gonna believe what happened, you missed the greatest conference ever, or you missed the most incredible experience." And I'd be like, "Oh man." The one time I didn't go to that meeting, of course that happened. Right? But I love that God's goodness is for everybody, and so he's gonna come back and we're gonna get a chance to be able to see him. So...
0:39:37 Mandy: Yeah, I love in verse 3, it's like, and then all night everyone's just running. At least we would all be running toward the temple, Tammy.
0:39:45 Tammy: Yeah, that's true. I would be running, I would be... And I would have my camping chair and I would want the front. I would be there before anyone else, I do know that about me, 'cause I hate crowds and lines, and so [chuckle] it's like, "See you people later," and I'm running as fast as I can. So we have right here in 3 Nephi chapter 19, in verse 4, we have the 12 apostles and they are named, and not only do we have 12 apostles, but the group of people are separated into 12 bodies, and so the number 12 is a symbol of God's perfect governmental foundation, and then that's what we have right here. And it can also symbolize completeness or the nation of Israel as a whole. And then what I love is in verse 6, they did kneel down upon the earth to pray, and then the disciples prayed in verse 7, and then I love verse 8. Mandy, will you read verse 8?
0:40:33 Mandy: And when they had ministered those same words which Jesus had spoken, nothing varying from the words which Jesus had spoken. Behold, they knelt again and prayed to the Father in the name of Jesus."
0:40:46 Tammy: Now, why did you emphasize nothing varying?
0:40:48 Mandy: Because I've been reading an article by Hugh Nibley about early Christian prayer circles and it's so important that things are done exactly the way the Lord has prescribed from the beginning of time, and so the power comes from being exact. Every word, every way he said it, so that it would have the effect, because the effect is amazing, and there's something to that verse...
0:41:16 Tammy: I totally agree, I have that highlighted in my scriptures because when you re-tell a story, you tell it from your point of view, that's human nature, or the way you tell stories, I like to just sum stuff up. I like to sum it up and then I love to live in hyperbole, my world is hyperbole [chuckle] and so I... And I throw a little dash of me in here and a little dash of exaggeration. I love to tell a story and exaggerate it, and this is so crazy to me to think that they were able to teach with nothing varying, to be able to remember and then to teach it the way the Savior did. And they just came off of the sacrament, we know that that prayer has to be said with perfection as all prayers do in ordinances, and so here we have this idea of nothing varying and then they kneel again and they start to pray, but verse 9 is what they pray for, and this is... This experience in verses 9 through 15 is powerful. And so if you learn nothing from chapter 19, this is what you need to learn. So Roberta, will you please read for us verse 9?
0:42:19 Roberta: And they didn't pray for that which they most desired, and they desired that the Holy Ghost should be given unto them.
0:42:27 Tammy: What did they pray for?
0:42:29 Roberta: The Holy Ghost. They had already felt it, and they wanted it to stay with them. They didn't want it just to be a fleeting thing.
0:42:37 Tammy: Exactly. I called Mandy to talk to her about this 'cause I was so troubled with this verse. I had this moment with Mandy because I called her and I said, "I cannot find anywhere. Why are they praying to have the Holy Ghost? 'Cause they felt it, the Holy Ghost has been existent. It's not like they've never had it, and I just love when you pointed out Mandy, and then maybe you can say it better, how... The idea of this experience in America is mirroring what happened in Jerusalem, right?
0:43:07 Mandy: Yes, I'm thinking this is around Pentecost because Christ is there, 40-day ministry, he's appearing and... I think it's gotta be close to Pentecost, that's just my best guess.
0:43:20 Tammy: Yeah, that's what we were talking about because... So if you go to the Bible Dictionary, it will tell you the gift of the Holy Ghost did not operate in its fullness during the dispensation of Christ on the earth, and that dispensation would apply to the whole earth, it wouldn't just apply to only in Jerusalem. So the people in America, we can only assume that it's the same, that they didn't have the constant companionship, the gift of the Holy Ghost, so they're praying for it. Now, what we do know, according to some scholars, is Christ didn't come to America until after his 40-day experience in Jerusalem, his 40 days with the apostles, the day Pentecost is 50 days after the Passover, so carry the one round to the nearest whatever.
0:44:07 Tammy: And I loved when you said this Mandy, it just struck me 'cause I thought it could possibly have been, and I can't find anywhere that says so this is the Gospel according to Tam and Mandy. How amazing would it be to believe that the day of Pentecost in the New Testament, in the Book of Acts chapter 2, happened at the same time as 3 Nephi chapter 19, only on a grander scale, and Jesus continues to say this throughout these three chapters, he is saying, the people in Jerusalem did not get to experience what you're experiencing. So they pray for the gift of the Holy Ghost, and then Nephi goes and he gets baptized, and then he starts to baptize, he's given the power to baptize and he's baptizing. And this was interesting 'cause I thought, but they've already been baptized. But this is significant, so put to the side your scriptures right there, re-baptism. So the Lord commands them to re-baptize everyone as a symbol that they are starting the church brand new now. From this point on, here's our prophet, here's our 12 apostles, here's the sacrament. Let me teach you what this looks like, the church is new starting now, and everyone's getting re-baptized, so Nephi goes, re-baptizes, and then let's read verse 13 through 15.
0:45:15 Mandy: "And it came to pass when they were all baptized and had come up out of the water, the Holy Ghost did fall upon them, and they were filled with the Holy Ghost and with fire. And behold, they were encircled about as if it were by fire, and it came down from heaven, and the multitude did witness it and did bear record, and angels did come down out of heaven and administer unto them. And it came to pass that while the angels were ministering unto the disciples, behold, Jesus came and stood in the midst and ministered unto them."
0:44:15 Tammy: Okay, we're gonna highlight a couple of words in there. In verse 13 and 14, the word "fire," it appears twice, and that is a lot of the same wording that you find in Acts 2, "There was fire in the day of Pentecost." And that fire is a purifier, it is a symbol of the Holy Ghost, and it purifies and it sanctifies. And what's so beautiful about this is when it says, "They're circled about as if it were by fire," they're being purified and sanctified so that they can be in the presence of angels. They are now cleansed.
0:46:18 Tammy: And when you go back to what you said, Mandy, how the Lord is going to heal them in all their afflictions, and they're going to then partake of the sacrament and become clean again, and then they're getting baptized, and now they can be in the presence of angels in their purest form. I wanna read this quote, was by Elder Holland, and he has this to say about this day of Pentecost. And Roberta, can you read this for us?
0:46:39 Roberta: Elder Holland said, "Indeed, these who were renewing their baptismal covenants in this newer, higher dispensation, were encircled by fire, followed by angels who came down from heaven and ministered to them. In the crowning manifestation of this heavenly sequence, Jesus appeared, and standing in the midst of the group, reinforcing and encouraging his teachings on humility and purity of the day before. And capitalizing on the spiritual atmosphere established among the congregation by the 12 disciples, Jesus commanded the 12 disciples and the multitude to kneel again and to pray."
0:47:20 Tammy: Thank you. And so they're going to kneel again and to pray. And in the next segment, we are gonna specifically talk about the prayers that are offered in 3 Nephi 19, as well as the Savior's prayers and I love this so much.
0:47:43 Tammy: We're gonna start this segment with a quote by Don Parry. This is interesting. When you think about 3 Nephi 19, here's what Don Parry teaches us about the significance of prayers in this chapter. And Mandy, will you please read this for us?
0:47:57 Mandy: Nowhere in all of the Book of Mormon is the subject of prayer taught and emphasized in such a concentrated fashion as it is in 3 Nephi 11-20, wherein approximately 60 verses are dedicated to the subject of prayer and some 11 prayers are offered. Jesus instructs the people how to pray. Later, he also gives them the baptismal and sacramental prayers. In addition to teaching the Nephites to pray, Jesus offers numerous prayers to the father in their behalf.
0:48:27 Tammy: So of those prayers, of those 11 prayers, six of them are in 3 Nephi 19. The first three prayers are offered by the people who were there with Nephi. The first prayer, and I just put a little number one in my scripture, so number one, the first prayer is in verse 7. The second prayer is in verse 8, and verse 9, the prayer they prayed for the Holy Ghost. And then the third prayer is in verses 16 and 17, so I have a number three. Now the last three prayers in 3 Nephi 19 are prayers offered by Jesus Christ. We're gonna continue numbering 'em though. So prayer number four in 3 Nephi 19 is verses 20-24. The fifth prayer that the Savior then prays is in verse 28 and 29. I'll put number 5 there. And then the last prayer, number six, prayer for this chapter, is found in verse 31-36.
0:49:18 Tammy: So we're gonna take some time and read about the prayers that Jesus prayed. I thought this was interesting. In the Bible, in the New Testament, there are seven places where Jesus's prayer is recorded, only seven prayers in the New Testament. Of the seven prayers that the Savior prays in the New Testament, and I'll put them in my show notes so you can go and look up what those prayers are, what's unique and what's actually consistent with all of his prayers is that he uses three things when he prays, or he prays for three things I guess I should say, his prayers are a prayer of thanks, a prayer of forgiveness or asking for repentance, and then the last prayer is, "Not my will, but thine." And this question was asked by Sheridan in Dubai: How do you sit with that, "Not thy will but mine," when you're praying? How do you let that play into your prayers without being bitter? I'm wondering, Mandy and Roberta, do you have any thoughts on that?
0:50:10 Roberta: You know my thing is, I believe him, and I have faith in him, and I trust him. And that's the way I go, that's the way I flow. With any prayer, it's, "I believe you, I have faith in you, I trust you. You know better than I do." We see things with this mortal mind. Sometimes we can't get past that. He sees it with eternal mind, eternal perspective.
0:50:38 Tammy: Thank you.
0:50:39 Mandy: I love that, Roberta. That's beautiful. I think I read something the other day that I felt prompted to follow, and it said, "Pray to want to do the things you know you should do." And I think that's a... There's a gap for me, the desire to do the thing, right? The desire to want to do what is right.
0:51:02 Tammy: And I thought a lot about that too, 'cause I felt like for me, the beauty in, "Not my will but thine," is when the Savior went into Gethsemane. Twice he went in and twice he came out to his friends, and I felt like he was looking for some empathy or some help, or just checking in, like, "Can anyone help me out? This is harder than I thought it would be," and his friends were asleep. And I had this epiphany this week, which was, every time we go to the Savior, he won't be asleep and he will be there to empathize with us 'cause he understands fully, he totally gets it and so when we utter those words, not my will but thine he's like, "Yeah, I get that."
0:51:38 Mandy: Can I add something there? So the Greek in that is actually they pass out, they can't take it. It's not that they're like, "I'm pretty tired."
0:51:45 Tammy: Right.
0:51:46 Mandy: Right. So they're amazing but they can't do it, and it goes back to the infinite capacity of Jesus Christ, that he doesn't run out of capacity for you, he isn't wearied, he isn't worn out, he isn't like your mortal friends who unfortunately all have capacity issues, right?
0:52:04 Tammy: Yes.
0:52:06 Tammy: I'm so glad you brought that up, 'cause that's exactly it. And you cannot... Yeah, the capacity for the Savior with us is endless, and so... Thank you, Mandy. That's perfect. So let's go into 3 Nephi 19 and read the Savior's prayers. We're gonna start in verse 20 and 21, and. Mandy, will you read that first prayer for us?
0:52:24 Mandy: Yes.
0:52:26 Tammy: It's interesting in verse 19, that he goes away to pray, and he does this in the testament. And when I think of that, my little way off has been in my closet, my little way off has been in my car, it has been sometimes in the mountains, but whatever that looks like for you, find it, go a little way off and start to pray and then this is what the Savior prayed. Go ahead Mandy.
0:52:44 Mandy: Father I thank thee that thou has given the Holy Ghost unto these whom I have chosen, and it is because of their belief in me that I have chosen them out of the world. Father I pray thee that thou wilt give the Holy Ghost unto all them that shall believe in their words.
0:53:01 Tammy: I think it's incredible how many times he says, I in there, I thank thee... I circled all the I's and then as you continue in the prayer Mandy, keep reading now for us 22 and 23.
0:53:11 Mandy: Father, thou has given them the Holy Ghost because they believe in me, and now seest that they believe in me because thou hearest them, and they pray unto me, and they pray unto me because I am with them. And now Father, I pray unto thee for them, and also for all those who shall believe on their words, that they may believe in me, that I may be in them as thou Father art in me, that we may be one.
0:53:38 Tammy: What a beautiful first-person prayer. I don't know that I could re-write someone's prayer this beautifully if I had heard it myself.
0:53:46 Mandy: And yet this beautiful overarching oneness. It's all that it brings it all into one symbiotic whole is beautiful.
0:53:57 Tammy: Yes, so incredible.
0:54:00 Roberta: I love how he says that they're together, "Father you're in me and I am in you." He does that several times, even in the New Testament, he does that, he reminds us, we have to be that way when we pray.
0:54:11 Tammy: Yeah.
0:54:11 Roberta: We have to be one with him, we have to be in sync with him.
0:54:16 Tammy: Yeah, absolutely. Roberta, read the next prayer he gave in verses 28 and 29, will you read that for us? 'Cause it goes back to your idea of what you just shared about them being one.
0:54:26 Roberta: Father, I thank thee that thou has purified those who might have chosen because of their faith, and I pray for them and also for them who shall believe on their words, that they may be purified in me through faith on their words, even as they are purified in me. Father I pray not for the world, but for those whom thou has given me out of the world because of their faith, that they may be purified in me, that I may be in them as thou Father are in me, that we may be one, that I may be glorified in them.
0:55:01 Tammy: Highlight that, "Be one." And when you see that, at the top of my scriptures, I put the word atonement and I spelt it at-one-ment, this is when it applies to me. This is when I go, oh, that... 'Cause I remember everyone, when I was younger would teach me atonement means at one, I'm like, "I don't really know what... I don't understand." But now, here I do. This is it, this is where he's talking, for us to be one, he is one with us, that we may all be one through the atonement of Jesus Christ, that's where we're at one with him. And then we have his last prayer, and let's just read that because this one just blows my mind. Let's see, I'll read this. That starts in verse 31, the last prayer.
0:55:40 Tammy: And it came to pass that he went again a little way off and prayed unto the Father, and tongue cannot speak the words which he prayed, neither can be written by man the words which he prayed, and the multitude did hear and do bear record, and their hearts were open and they did understand in their hearts the words which he prayed. Nevertheless, so great and marvelous were the words which he prayed, that they cannot be written, neither can they be uttered by man. And it came to pass that when Jesus had made an end of praying, he came again to the disciples and said unto them, "So great faith have I never seen among all the Jews, wherefore I could not show unto them so great miracles because of their unbelief."
0:56:17 Tammy: The prayer is so great, you can't even... I cannot wait to find out what that prayer was.
0:56:22 Roberta: Yes, that is amazing.
0:56:24 Tammy: Mandy, tell me your thought.
0:56:27 Mandy: I have a lot of thoughts. To me, this screams of a very specific kind of prayer that does open heaven, that does transcend here. So that's the first thing. The other thing is this ability to enact great miracles because of our belief. My husband had just pointed out in The Book of Mormon, the actual Mormon, where he said, "Miracles cease because of unbelief," and belief is so, so powerful. It's so important that we believe, that we don't let the darkness take over, that we don't lose that belief. No matter how dark it gets, that we trust in miracles, we trust for deliverance, we put it all out there, and I love that they are multiplying many words. I think my heart can say things and speak things to happen that I could never actually articulate, and I think we should never discount that as not a prayer either.
0:57:24 Roberta: I was thinking the same thing. I've been in countries all over the world where I have attended church. And it's interesting, I don't understand their language, and that's what I love about this, they don't understand the words he's saying. But when I'm sitting in church in Egypt last year, I understood through the heart what they are saying, and that's the language that is so important, is it's through the heart.
0:57:53 Tammy: It's interesting, I've never considered that before in that verse, that they didn't understand, did he pray in a different language? I've never thought of that. Did he pray in Hebrew? Did he pray in the Adamic language? Won't that be interesting to find out?
0:58:06 Mandy: He's praying a heavenly prayer.
0:58:08 Tammy: Yes.
0:58:08 Roberta: Exactly.
0:58:09 Mandy: Which is why it doesn't translate in a telestial sphere. You don't even have language or expression for something so heavenly.
0:58:19 Tammy: I love that.
0:58:20 Roberta: But their hearts...
0:58:21 Tammy: But their hearts understood it. You're totally right, Roberta. Thank you. Well, that was profound. That was good. Now, what's cool about this is that we're not done with 3 Nephi chapter 19. So in the next segment, I'm going to teach you guys about a specific word that I love so much, we have to talk about it, and I can't wait to show it to you in the next segment.
0:58:49 Tammy: Alright, in the last segment, we talked about the prayers of Jesus and the incredible experience the people had, and we have to talk about this next word, 'cause it's so fantastic. It's said twice in 3 Nephi chapter 19, and it's in verse 25, and then in verse 30, and Mandy, I'm gonna have you read these for us.
0:59:06 Mandy: Verse 25, "It came to pass that Jesus blessed them as they did pray unto Him and His countenance did smile upon them. The light of His countenance did shine upon them, and behold they were as white as the countenance and also the garments of Jesus, and behold the whiteness thereof did exceed all the whiteness, ye even there could be nothing on Earth so white as the whiteness thereof. And when Jesus had spoken these words, He came again unto his disciples, and behold, they did pray steadfastly without ceasing unto Him, and He did smile upon them again, and behold they were white, even as Jesus."
0:59:46 Tammy: What word did you mark?
0:59:47 Mandy: Smile for sure.
0:59:49 Mandy: Whiteness was a close second.
0:59:52 Tammy: Yes, yes, whiteness. They both go hand-in hand, this idea of Jesus smiling. And we've heard it's the only scriptural account where Jesus smiles. I just think maybe it just didn't get written 'cause surely he smiles a lot, right? He's gotta have a sense of humor.
1:00:07 Roberta: Yeah, oh yeah.
1:00:08 Tammy: And when we read this, I think it's so interesting because just the idea of them being as white as him and he engulfing them with His goodness, and that will be white meaning pure, like the whiteness he's talking about is just the purity that these people had experienced. They are so pure and clean.
1:00:24 Mandy: And heavenly light, it's so refined, it's said to be like the prism, it's all of it put together.
1:00:31 Tammy: Yeah. And I would feel like at that moment, he would take every insecurity I've ever had in my life, and just... How do I even describe it? What am I trying to say? Like he just would wipe clean my slate of all my insecurities, all of the yuck that I've carried, and it would just be this moment of...
0:44:15 Mandy: Fullness, right?
1:00:55 Roberta: Oh, yeah.
1:00:57 Mandy: Fullness, like you would smile if you were full.
1:01:00 Roberta: Yes.
1:01:01 Mandy: When you're just so happy you can't smash the smile down off your face.
1:01:05 Tammy: That's exactly what that moment is. I miss smiles, you have to read people's eyes, like the mask, I miss smiling to people. There's something so congenial like, "Oh," this mutual sense of, we're on the same page when you smile at each other, right?
1:01:23 Mandy: I think that's part of Satan's adversity here, is cutting out that expression, seeing someone's countenance and that smile, and that expression, you realize what a heavenly gift, that really, really is, something I probably never would have recognized.
1:01:41 Tammy: Right.
1:01:42 Roberta: It is so hard to not smile and stay in a bad mood when somebody is smiling at you, even in the grocery store, you're in a hurry and somebody smiles, what do you automatically do? It brightens your day even for that moment.
1:01:57 Mandy: And then the smile and laughter of a child, come on.
1:02:00 Roberta: Oh yeah, there's nothing better.
1:02:04 Tammy: I wanna read this quote by Jeffrey R. Holland, because I think that maybe this is a perfect description of what that smile must have been like for those people, and what it will be like when we see Jesus again. Mandy, will you read this for us, please?
1:02:19 Mandy: "There is room for those whose speak different languages, celebrate diverse cultures and live in a host of locations. There is room for the single, for the married, for large families and for the childless. There is room for those who once had questions regarding their faith and room for those who still do. There is room for those with differing sexual attractions, in short, there is a place for everyone who loves God and honors his commandments as the inviolable measuring rod for personal behavior. For if love of God is the melody of our shared song, surely our common quest to obey Him is the indispensable harmony in it, with divine imperatives of love and faith, repentance and compassion, honesty and forgiveness, there is room in this choir for all who wish to be there. Come as you are, a loving, heavenly father says to each of us, but he adds, don't plan to stay as you are. We smile and remember that God is determined to make of us more than we thought we could be."
1:03:24 Roberta: I love that he's including everybody and it is so true. It doesn't matter where we come from, who we are, we are all God's children and he's letting us know that. He will take us as we are.
1:03:39 Mandy: Yes, I think it's like, just pick up your pile of adversity laundry and just chuck it in and we'll... Seeing to the end of that bad boy, and that would bring a smile to all of our faces wouldn't it? As we all experience adversity and hardship. I love that it's so inclusive.
1:03:57 Tammy: And just what you said Mandy, I had the thought, and who doesn't dream of the day where there's just no more laundry? That makes me smile.
1:04:03 Roberta: Absolutely.
1:04:04 Tammy: To think that our laundry is done, it's all...
1:04:08 Mandy: Forever.
1:04:08 Tammy: Yes, forever. That is the smile.
1:04:11 Mandy: Never to be stained, never to be soiled. Think of how powerful that is.
1:04:17 Tammy: Yeah, in fact, let's just turn to a verse of scripture that says that, it's in the book of Revelation, this would be a great way to end because he knows what's waiting, he knows how good it will be. Roberta, will you please read Revelation chapter 21 verse 4?
1:04:30 Roberta: And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain, for the former things are passed away.
1:04:45 Tammy: We're all smiling right now.
1:04:46 Mandy: Yeah.
1:04:50 Roberta: I smile with tears.
1:04:53 Tammy: A smile is so important in this... In this whole chapter. That smile is what is the cherry on top. He smiles on them, and they get the gift of the Holy Ghost, and there's so much beauty in these chapters, and we have felt that today as we've talked about these ladies. Everything you taught me, it makes me smile. I smiled for the last hour of studying this with you because it's true, and the outcome will be beautiful. So thank you, thank you for helping me teach today that was incredible.
1:05:20 Mandy: You're so welcome.
1:05:21 Roberta: It was great. I always learn from you guys so much.
1:05:24 Tammy: Okay, so we're gonna just real quick, each of us get to share our takeaways. What was our takeaway from today?
1:05:30 Roberta: Well, I love Mandy's children and pancakes. And I have to say, I've been one who I had never wanted to be in the nursery. But that kind of changes the whole focus of how I see that. Maybe next time they ask, and I have said no before. So, for me, that really changed the whole way I see that. Children and pancakes, I'll never forget that.
1:05:58 Tammy: That was awesome.
1:06:00 Mandy: Awesome. Well, I gotta say mine is definitely smiling, how the smile actually brings light. Like I said, it's been a struggle, and I've just thought so much about how do we infuse this poor world with more light and love, and I have this beautiful daughter who just was re-assigned to the Anaheim mission, and her little sister was very scared to start school this week. And she said the most beautiful, profound thing, and Tammy, when you talked about the smile, it just hit me like a ton of bricks, so... She said, "You turn that scare floor into a laughing floor." And I don't know if I think you get the reference, but "Monsters Inc," remember how it's all about, we have to have scare, and that the world is powered by scare, and our world will fall apart without fear and scaring, until they realized that the power of laughter is 10 times the power of scare, and they revolutionize how things are done. And I think that is incumbent upon us, that the smiling is absolutely accompanied by this magnification of light and heavenly ray.
1:07:14 Tammy: Absolutely, thank you. Great takeaways. Great. I have two, I'll just say them really fast. So Roberta, when you talked about how the sacrament is like our Passover. I'm a huge fan of the Passover. I love to celebrate the Passover, I love to have a Passover dinner at my house, and I had never considered that the sacrament is sort of our equivalent. When you think of all the symbolism there is in a Passover, and you apply it to the sacrament, and it is, it's remembering what the Savior did with us. Think about how many times we're told to remember in the sacrament, and remembering that the atonement is causing the destroying angel to pass by us, so I'm gonna keep thinking about that for a long time. I really like that. And then Mandy, when you talked about that prayer that could not be understood, and you said you believe that it's a specific type of prayer. I've never thought of that before. And so I'm gonna be mulling that over for a while. What kind of prayer would that have been? Was it in a different language? I can't wait to find out what was said, but I just loved that. Today my brain... It's so much to take in. I am filled. I am filled.
1:08:18 Roberta: Yes. I'm filled.
1:08:19 Mandy: I'm filled.
1:08:19 Mandy: I definitely am filled.
1:08:20 Mandy: And it comes out in my smile.
1:08:23 Roberta: Yes, yes.
1:08:25 Tammy: Oh, thank you. That was so great. Okay, thanks for sharing your takeaways. For those of you listening now, after today, I mean, oh my gosh, there's so many takeaways, but I wanna know what your takeaway was after today's discussion, so if you haven't already joined our discussion group on Facebook or Instagram, you guys should totally go there, join us so that we can talk about these things throughout the week. And I love it when people post questions and when they share their thoughts and their ideas on different things. And then at the end of every week, and it's usually on a Sunday, we do a post asking for what your big takeaway was, so make sure you share what you learned this week. You can get to both our Facebook and Instagram by going to the show notes for this episode at ldsliving.com/sundayonmonday. It's also not a bad idea to go there, because that's where you're gonna find all of our show notes that all three of us used. So there's a lot of stuff, and we've even talked about how there's stuff in the show notes, we didn't even have time to talk about, and you can also find a transcript of this entire discussion. So go check that out.
1:09:17 Tammy: The "Sunday on Monday" study group is a Desert Bookshelf PLUS+ original, brought to you by "LDS Living". It's written and hosted by me, Tammy Uzelac Hall, and today our awesome, wonderful, smiling study group participants were Mandy Green and Roberta North. You can find out more information about these ladies at ldsliving.com/sundayonmonday. Our podcast is produced by Katie Lambert and Erica Free. It is recorded and mixed by Mix at Six Studios, and our executive producer is Erin Halstrom. Thank you for being here, we'll see you next week. And boy, if there was ever a time to remember this after these three chapters, you are God's favorite.
1:09:57 Tammy: Is that our phone Mandy, Roberta?
1:10:00 Roberta: Oh, yes.
1:10:00 Tammy: Oh, it is, hold on. I'm so sorry. Can you believe this episode?
1:10:03 Roberta: This must really need to be done. This must really need to be done.
1:10:07 Mandy: I think it is...
1:10:09 Mandy: It reminds me of as a missionary, we never ever, not one time, told the First Vision without some crazy disruption. You never ever got through it, because it was so powerful and Satan would always just come in and just destroy it.
1:10:30 Tammy: This has never happened. Every time Sharon comes here.
1:10:35 Tammy: She sits there.
1:10:36 Tammy: This has never happened once.
1:10:36 Roberta: That's okay.